To: "Health Freedom, Codex Issues
Subject: Criminal FDA Attacks Libertarian Solutions in Spain: Libsol Fights Back Via Website: Add Your Comments to the Judge
From: "I A H F" firstname.lastname@example.org
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 18:01:53 -0500
IAHF List: Did you realize that the criminal US FDA's reach extends even beyond the boundaries of American soil to countries world wide? Its true, and the plight of Dennis Faulkner and his wife, her parents, and the employees of his company, Libertarian Solution in Spain is evidence of the massive corrupt power of the FDA. Along with attacking safe dietary supplements, via stooges in the FDA and their international counterparts, the Pharma Cartel are ALSO artificially inflating the cost of pharmaceutical prescription drugs, especially in the USA where people on fixed incomes are often forced to pay up to 1000% more for drug prices than people in Europe have to pay. The FDA runs a protection racket for these corrupt companies blocking consumers from purchasing these drugs more inexpensively offshore from ethical companies such as Libertarian Solutions in Spain. See Faulkner's letter to the FDA below my comments.
http://www.mijashhh.com/LIBSOL through which Libertarian Solutions is fighting back against the FDA and the Spanish government which is wrongly trying to incarcerate him and shut down his company. See the horrible way in which Faulkner and, his wife, and her parents have been treated by Spanish authorties at the urging of the criminal FDA mafia.
While IAHF is primarily concerned with safeguarding consumer access to dietary supplements, we oppose the FDA across the board, and feel that the criminal manner in which they have attacked Dennis Faulkner of Libertarian Solutions is grossly outrageous. As a Libertarian, I am massively offended by the FDA's scurrulous attack on this company. Please go on Dennis's website and issue some comments to the Judge.http://www.mijashhh.com/LIBSOL
Faulkner has been wrongly vilified, termed a "Narco Trafficer" by Spanish authorities (at FDA urging), when all he was doing was providing Americans, and people world wide with an affordable source of prescription drugs for which Americans are forced to pay outrageously high prices (up to 1000% more than people in Europe for the exact same drugs) as the FDA runs its protection racket to artificially inflate the prices which many people, especially people on fixed incomes can't afford.
While IAHF does not endorse the use of pharmaceutical drugs, and feels that health is best maintained and safer dietary supplements, healthy lifestyles and alternative medicine, IAHF also subscribes to the view that we should be free to ingest whatever we want into our bodies without state control or interference, and the FDA should not no right to dictate that we pay higher prices here if we can get the same exact drugs cheaper offshore.
Therefor IAHF encourages wide support of Libertarian Solutions, and I urge you to visit the website Dennis Faulkner has built to call attention to their plight, having been savagely attacked by the FDA. On the website you can post comments to the Judge regarding this injustice.http://www.mijashhh.com/LIBSOL
Please forward this widely, including to your Senators and Congressmen with a note protesting the FDA's action against this man. One what legitimate basis does the FDA think it has any right to harrass companies this way when they're outside the borders of the USA? One what legitimate basis does the FDA seek to block Americans from doing business with Libertarian Solutions?
LETTER FROM DENNIS FAULKNER OF LIBERTARIAN SOLUTIONS TO THE DESPICABLE LEECHES AT FDA: (see their letter to him at http://www.mijashhh.com/LIBSOL
To D J Horowitz
Reply to your email dated 27.03.01
I acknowledge receipt of your email, the contents of which I note. You appear to have made many unjustified assumptions and inaccurate statements within such a short letter and I would like you to answer the following questions so I can fully consider the next move of myself and my company.
Firstly it has to be said that I believe, and facts bear out my belief, that your agency department, along with the full FDA administration spends the majority of its time protecting the major pharmaceutical companies and shows no regard or compassion for the plight of US citizens that cannot pay the inflated prices of medicines in your country. The remit of the FDA is Food and Drugs so why do you spend 80% of your revenue on the latter duty to the detriment of the former?
Why in your email do you never say that we ARE in violation of any law, only that we MAY be? If this is your true thoughts why do you spend so much time, manpower and effort chasing and persecuting people who MAY be doing something wrong when these resources could be much better employed tracking down and stopping the thousands of low lives who prey on the weak and young with mind altering substances for recreational use? Show me evidence that any of my clients are using medicines for anything other than a genuine medical condition and I will tighten up our already strong checking procedures to ensure it never happens again. I will even implement safety procedures recommended by you if they were practical. No regular pharmacy would give you such a commitment.
Back to your email:
In your first paragraph you mention 2 products and state that you are so certain of your agency's ability to monitor products that anything made without your rubber stamp (ineffectual in any other country than the USA, but expensive and important revenue for you) is a violation of section 33, 331, 355. May I respectfully suggest that you read these sections a little more carefully with an open mind. To say you cannot determine the origin or manufacture of the products you mention is a completely false statement, I understand that you have testing labs in the states that could determine this within hours, if not minutes. You can see by the packaging that the products we sell are by the same manufacturers that market the product in the USA. Are you suggesting that without your supervision that the major pharmaceutical companies drop their manufacturing standards and that Europe does not meet the criteria set by the infallible FDA? Or do you wish to appoint yourselves as the medical police of the world? I do not think that you can do this, as the Gestapo tactics used by your agency and the draconian way you implement your remit would not be tolerated in many European countries.
Your second paragraph is a wonderful, contrived concoction of double talk, sneaky wriggling and has obviously been penned by a committee that took many minutes whilst wasting many days. It has no solid meaning in the English language. Allow me to educate you:
In your first sentence you refer to foreign versions of USA approved drugs and in the second sentence ( I use the word sentence here very loosely as, although it has much punctuation, it is totally meaningless), refer to the same products as not approved for use in the USA. Are you trying to say that although it is approved it is not approved or is it that you do not want the USA manufactured products sales to be affected by an equal but less expensive import? You then go on to explain how the FDA grants its regal authority on the products it approves of, but you neglect to mention that your approved products are killing thousands of USA citizens every year, that the cost of FDA approval stops all small pharmaceutical manufacturers applying for it and that the cost of FDA approval plus the political influence of the large pharmaceutical companies means the US citizen pays up to 1000% more for a medicine than their European cousins.
Perhaps you should also have mentioned the reluctance of the FDA to rescind any approvals to a product and how long it takes you to do so regardless of any evidence that conclusively shows the products harm people. Perhaps you forgot to mention these things or thought them not relevant to your argument. In the past 4 years Libsol has ceased selling 5 products that we think constitute too high a risk to our clients. The FDA recalled 2 of these products more than 2 years after us despite there being conclusive scientific evidence of their dangers at the time Libsol withdrew them. Is it your agency or my company that acted irresponsibly here? The FDA continues to support the other products. Would you not agree that the size and complexity of the FDA has turned it into an Albatross and it should have the same fate as one? Naturally, to answer this question with any degree of impartiality you will have to ignore the loss of your comfortable office, subsidised transport, index linked pension and security of work. Try it. Perhaps you could also answer this question whilst you are in an impartial state of mind: If a member of your close family on a fixed income became ill and had to decide every month whether to eat properly or buy the medicines from the local pharmacy or do both by buying from a reputable and reliable offshore source, what would your advice be? Do you think that a law that is bad should be taken off the statute books or do you believe that all laws are good?
In this convoluted and inconsistent paragraph you also state that you cannot provide assurance to the American public about the products on my web site. Who the hell is asking you to? I neither solicit nor need your assurances and neither, apparently do my clients. Perhaps you can let me know exactly how many of them have turned to you for your assurances and blessing. Your organisation is arrogant beyond measure. Do you really believe that the average American does not have the wit or intelligence to gather all the relevant information for themselves and make their own decisions? We have sufficient checks in place to ensure anyone who purchases from us does so through informed choice and genuine need, we supply much more information about products than the pharmacies, the manufacturers or the physicians. Are you so paranoid, insular and afraid of individual freedom of choice that you consider everything on the internet to be marketed solely to your country and an attack on your enforced monopoly over what people can and cannot take for their illnesses? Do you consider yourselves to be the ultimate authority or do you use the well worn civil servants theme tune 'I'm just doing my job, talk with the boss?', or the argument to end all others, 'it's the best we've got.' You then advise me that you have an import alert out on the products I ship. You have had this alert for years and you cannot pretend that it was initialised to prevent the kind of products you refer to in your first paragraph. We have been sending food supplements and anti-aging remedies, natural and chemical, for a long time and your import alert was initially directed at these products. Every single one of these products was unavailable in your country because of the high cost of FDA approval and/or not approved for a 'specific' use by yourselves. It is worth mentioning here that in the last 6 years you have 'approved' 6 products all previously sold by me and sent to your country under the personal importation policy. You had an import alert out on every one of them, even when they were in final approval state, why? None of the products we sold were prescription medicines in the USA.
Perhaps you can explain the reason for this former 'import alert.' Eg. Aspirin. You still fail to approve this product as beneficial to improving blood flow because it has not been 'FDA tested for this use.' This, despite the worldwide acknowledgement of its effects by eminent physicians and scientists.
You then tell me that you are informing the Spanish authorities of my actions and I know by the amount of Dollars that is given to this country to help its economy that I may suffer some sanctions. But you should be aware, we are not a cowboy company, we are fully licensed to conduct this business and will continue to do so. You have tried to disrupt and discredit my business since its conception for no other reason than continuing the FDA dictatorship of the individuals health freedom. You deny people access to non toxic and safe products because your political masters get no mileage from it and there is no profit in it for their campaign contributors. You have a stranglehold on the American public that you squeeze when the mood takes you and that in itself is reprehensible. You then go on to mention the 'compassionate approach' that you have applied in allowing into the country small quantities of unapproved drugs for a persons treatment of a serious condition. You also mention some of the products we sell do not meet the 'FDA personal use policy.' This is a statement that requires addressing very seriously as it is the hinge that opens the door for our companies approach to supplying our US clients.
1. To say you have a compassionate approach to this matter is absolute and utter rubbish and an out and out lie. The only reason the FDA capitulated in this matter was because of the enormous pressure put on their political masters and puppets by the strength of the consumer buying groups for people with AIDS and CANCER. It had become increasingly obvious to the American public that they were being short changed and had to look to other countries for medicines as a DIRECT RESULT of the policies of the FDA. It is a well documented FACT that a large number of politicians would have found themselves out of a job if they had failed to change the FDA policies. THAT is why the policy came into effect in 1986 and NOT because the civil service had a terminal case of compassion. I do not know if you penned the email to me yourself but, if you did, and you have sent it to others then your lack of knowledge on a subject that you should know everything about will probably create a world of apathy as most people in this business know the facts and ignore speculation and untruths from people such as yourselves.
2. You say you wish to clarify your policy on importation of pharmaceutical products, but you fail to mention that your agency has REFUSED to implement the NEW policies on importation that was signed by congress and have given no reasons for doing so. In fact, your organisation has refused the $10million the government offered to make it easy.
3. You also omitted to mention that you happily took the $10 million that the government gave you (on the recommendation of the large pharmaceutical companies) to chase down and close the online suppliers that are adversely affecting their campaign contributions.
4. You go on to state that you have not reviewed my site fully and that it is my responsibility to ensure that the goods I market in the USA are in compliance with the applicable US laws. This really goes back to the arrogance, superciliousness and ignorance perpetuated throughout your email. If you had done a full revue of my site, and this is impossible without my knowledge, consent and access codes, then you would have known that all our clients take responsibility for their own actions and sign a disclaimer stating that they are ordering in compliance of their country's laws. Whilst we take responsibility for who we sell to it is not incumbent upon us to check the laws in every country we sell to, surely you know that.
5. Under US law, as I understand it, I am not considered to be marketing solely to the USA just because I sell via the internet so perhaps you can explain fully what is meant under US law regarding marketing to the US public as you and my lawyers appear to be at odds over the interpretation of this law.
You know that my company is the world leader for customer satisfaction and we are the only company that operates openly and has a street address. So, obviously, I know that we are the No.1 target of the FDA's campaign to return to the days when the American public had to pay the asking price in the local pharmacy.
As a Libertarian I am dedicate to playing my part to see that all who want to have freedom of choice are given a choice and if that makes me a target then so be it. But let us play on a level surface, I will not break any laws and you must stop insinuating that I 'could be.'
If your agencies true concern is for the safety of the American public then please, check out my products, have them analysed, visit the manufacturers, work WITH me to make internet purchases safer, because, whether you like it or not, the internet is the way of the future for medicine sales. If we all commit ourselves to the same cause, using freedom of trade, quality of products and safety of the client as the cornerstones then this industry will grow and prosper for all. Continuing the futile and unnecessary war against legitimate and responsible companies such as Libsol will force this industry underground where there will be few safeguards and children and the easily influenced will suffer as a result through the sales of chemicals for recreational use.